ROBERT DICKIE
NAVIGATOR IN 460 SQUADRON RAAF

 

Subject:       STRIKE & RETURN
Date:           Sun, 31 Oct 1999 11:52:12 +1000
From:          "Sue Macdonald" <bromac@alphalink.com.au>

I would love to obtain a copy of "Strike & Return". I had tried quite some years ago to obtain this book in Melbourne but to no avail. I also visited the War Museum in Canberra two years ago, although I did obtain some information they were unable to provide a copy of this book.

Looking forward to hearing from you.

Thanks. Sue.

 

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Subject:    Re: STRIKE & RETURN
Date:             Mon, 1 Nov 1999 12:44:43 +1000
From:           "Sue Macdonald" <bromac@alphalink.com.au>

<Peter> No probs. The following company is still advertising copies of "Strike and Return". There is an advert in the latest copy of Flightpath.

Australian Military History Publications
13 Veronica Place,
Loftus
NSW 2232
Phone 02-9521 6515
Hardback $30
Softcover $25

What is your connection to 460 Squadron?

Thanks for your prompt reply. I will certainly be in touch with your contact to obtain a copy.

My uncle was a navigator in the 460 Squadron. Unfortunately his plane was shot down and he was buried in Holland along with the rest of the crew.

What is your connection in relation to WWII?

Cheers and thanks. Sue

 

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Subject:    Re: STRIKE & RETURN
Date:             Tue, 2 Nov 1999 21:17:36 +1000
From:           "Sue Macdonald" <bromac@alphalink.com.au>

Hi Peter,

<Peter> My father-in-law, Jan Goulevitch,  was a pilot in 460 Squadron. He is also an ex pilot of "G" for George. I've always had an interest in military aircraft and as a kid used to roam around the old WW2 hangars in the bush around Townsville often wandering why they were there. I was also in the Air Training Corps and then the RAAF Reserve.

Thanks for replying. I remember "G" for George at the Museum in Canberra.

What an awesome piece of machinery. From what I gather back then they were kids with so little experience raiding airspace that wouldn't be heard of today. I don't know many 18-21 year olds that would have the guts those blokes did back then. Do you? I have so much admiration for them. Cheers to you and is father in law still with us? I'd love to hear his stories.

Bye for now .. Sue.

 

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Subject:   STRIKE & RETURN
Date:           Thu, 4 Nov 1999 08:51:57 +1000
From:          "Sue Macdonald" <bromac@alphalink.com.au>

Hi Peter,

My uncle's name was Robert Dickie and he was from Dunkeld, Victoria. The only son of 5 children. My parents live in Hamilton, Victoria which is about 3.5 hours drive from Melbourne (where I reside) and 30km's from Dunkeld. She has a few photos tucked away. My cousins were in Holland earlier this year and visited the gravesite where my uncle and the rest of the crew are buried. She is also been in mail contact with a chap in Holland who has over the years been researching history about Australian RAAF. If you would like to pursue, and add further to your site I would be more than happy to assist. There is no history like that told from the horses mouth.

Bye for now .. Sue.

 

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Subject:    460 SQUADRON
From:           Sue Macdonald
To:               cathyd@shoalhaven.net.au

Sent: Thursday, November 04, 1999 9:30 PM

Hi Cathy,

My name is Sue Macdonald. My uncle R.J. Dickie was Navigator in 460 Squadron. I believe M.C. Skarratt was one of the crew and are buried alongside each other in Oostelbeers Roman Catholic Churchyard. Please contact me on bromac@alphalink.com.au and we will hopefully exchange info. Also do you know how many medals MC Skarratt received?

Cheers for now. Sue.

 

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Subject:   460 Squadron
Date:           Mon, 15 Nov 1999 15:07:50 +1000
From:          "Sue Macdonald" <bromac@alphalink.com.au>

Hi there Peter,

The crew were all KIA on 24/12/44 and are buried in Oostelbeers Roman Catholic Churchyard, Netherlands. Oostelbeers in a small village 13 kilometres north west of Eindhaven.

Crew were as follows:-

(S11)
(P) M.C. Skarratt
(E) T. Newman
(B) J.M. Ward
(N) R.J. Dickie
(W) R.I. Stewart
(G) C.K. Deed
(G) G.F. Day

I have emailed a contact of MC Skarratt on your Webpage over a week ago and am waiting on a reply. May do a follow up of that one. My mother has photos of the graves where the crew are buried.

Do you know of any war historians in the Netherlands? There is a chap that corresponded with my mother and I believe there were a couple of the families he was unable to contact. I shall find out more and get back to you.

Sue

 

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Subject:   460 Squadron
Date:           Thu, 13 Jan 2000 12:02:46 +1000
From:          "Sue Macdonald" <bromac@alphalink.com.au>

Hello Peter,

Its been quite some time since I last emailed to you. I have received copies of some letters from my mother which she received from a chap in Holland (dated from '95-'99) who, in his spare time, does research of wartime aircraft crashes and locating their crews.  Although his research is fully concentrated on the south-east part of Holland, his records contains over 300 aircraft (all RAF Bomber Command). He has made many contacts in the UK, Canada, and Australia with ex-crew members or relatives of crewmembers.

He has done quite a lot of research into the aircraft crash of my late uncle R.J. Dickie and has been in touch with most of the relatives of the crew here in Australia & the UK. The crew were from the 460 (RAAF) Squadron. The aircraft was AVRO Lancaster B.III. Codes were PB 255 AR-X and the base was at Binbrook, Lincolnshire. Details of the crash supplied was that the aircraft was underway to its target in Germany when it was intercepted by German fighters or nightfighters above the province of North-Limburg, the aircraft was badly damaged so the pilot decided to turn back to his base in England. Sadly above Oostelbeers the aircraft exploded and crashed in the woods.

All the crew are buried in Oostelbeers, I have a photo of the gravesite of the 7 crew killed and a photo of the crew minus Newman who it was believed took the photo should you wish to include it on your webpage.

The crew were:-

F/O Michael Carleton Skarratt RAAF (Pilot)
F/O John Michael Ward RAAF
Sgt. Thomas Charles Newman RAF (VR)
F/Sgt. Robert John Dickie (my uncle) RAAF (Navigator)
F/Sgt. Russell Ian Stewart RAAF
F/Sgt. Graham Fowler Day RAAF (Mid Uppergunner)
F/Sgt. Cyril Keith Deed RAAF (Reargunner)

Of 11 crews that went out that night they were the only ones that did not return.

I have had contact, via the internet (thanks to your webpage) from families of Skarratt, & Newman. However our friend in Holland has been unable to locate any relatives of the Deed family to complete his file.

Should you wish to receive copies of my photographs and the address of this chap in Holland (he has never mentioned the internet) I would be happy to forward it to you for your webpage readers.

Cheers for now ... Sue Macdonald

 

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Subject:   460 Squadron
Date:           Mon, 17 Jan 2000 10:29:58 +1000
From:          "Sue Macdonald" <bromac@alphalink.com.au>

Hi Peter,

The address of the chap in Holland who has done quite extensive research on the RAAF/RAF is as follows:

(from the most recent letter sent to my mother dated 10/3/99)

Ad van Zantvoort
van den Waarsenburglaan 6
5674 PV Gerwen (NR NUENEN)
Holland.
Tel: 00 31 40 2838345

Also, I haven't a scanner yet but that's on my shopping list. Will have the photos copied and forward them to you for inclusion on your website. Do you have a P.O. Box No.?

Regards,

Sue Macdonald

 

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Replica of a letter from Sue Macdonald

27 January, 2000

Mr. Peter Dunn
P.O. Box 2263,
Runcorn, QLD 4113

Dear Peter,

RE:  460 SQUADRON - (R.J. Dickie)

As advised via e-mail I enclose a photos of:-

1.          The crew pictured as follows:-

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Back row: L-R J.M. Ward (Bomb Aimer), M.C. Skarratt (Pilot), R.I. Stewart (Wireless Operator).
Front row: L-R C.K. Deed (rear gunner), G.F. Day (mid uppergunner), R.J. Dickie (Navigator).

 

2.         The gravesite of the crew pictured taken by my cousins, Sharon & Simon Arkell in 1995. The graves are in the churchyard in the village Oostelbeers, the Netherlands. Crew of Lancaster Bomber crash 24/12/1944.

 

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L-R:     G.E. Day, C.K. Deed
            R.J. Dickie, M.C. Skarratt
            T.C. Newman
            R.I. Stewart, J.M. Ward

 

I hope these are of some relevance in your website. I'm sure they will be sourced by other families of the crew.

I enclose a self addressed envelope for return of the photos once you have scanned them.

Looking forward to more surprises - I can't believe I've spoken to two families of the crew already. Keep up the good work.

Yours Sincerely,

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Sue Macdonald (niece to R.J. Dickie)

 


 

Subject:   460 Squadron
Date:           Thu, 13 Jan 2000 12:02:46 +1000
From:          "Sue Macdonald" <bromac@alphalink.com.au>

Hello Peter,

Its been quite some time since I last emailed to you. I have received copies of some letters from my mother which she received from a chap in Holland (dated from '95-'99) who, in his spare time, does research of wartime aircraft crashes and locating their crews. Although his research is fully concentrated on the south-east part of Holland, his records contains over 300 aircraft (all RAF Bomber Command). He has made many contacts in the UK, Canada, and Australia with ex-crew members or relatives of crewmembers.

He has done quite alot of research into the aircraft crash of my late uncle R.J. Dickie and has been in touch with most of the relatives of the crew here in Australia & the UK. The crew were from the 460 (RAAF) Squadron. The aircraft was AVRO Lancaster B.III. Codes were PB 255 AR-X and the base was at Binbrook, Lincolnshire. Details of the crash supplied was that the aircraft was underway to its target in Germany when it was intercepted by German fighters or nightfighters above the province of North-Limburg, the aircraft was badly damaged so the pilot decided to turn back to his base in England. Sadly above Oostelbeers the aircraft exploded and crashed in the woods.

All the crew are buried in Oostelbeers, I have a photo of the gravesite of the 7 crew killed and a photo of the crew minus Newman who it was believed took the photo should you wish to include it on your webpage.

The crew were:-

F/O Michael Carleton Skarratt RAAF (Pilot)
F/O John Michael Ward RAAF
Sgt. Thomas Charles Newman RAF (VR)
F/Sgt. Robert John Dickie (my uncle) RAAF (Navigator)
F/Sgt. Russell Ian Stewart RAAF
F/Sgt. Graham Fowler Day RAAF (Mid Uppergunner)
F/Sgt. Cyril Keith Deed RAAF (Reargunner)

Of 11 crews that went out that night they were the only ones that did not return.

I have had contact, via the internet (thanks to your webpage) from families of Skarratt, & Newman. However our friend in Holland has been unable to locate any relatives of the Deed family to complete his file.

Should you wish to receive copies of my photographs and the address of this chap in Holland (he has never mentioned the internet) I would be happy to forward it to you for your webpage readers.

Cheers for now ...

Sue Macdonald

 


 

Subject:   Re: 460 Squadron
Date:           Mon, 17 Jan 2000 10:29:58 +1000
From:          "Sue Macdonald" <bromac@alphalink.com.au>

Hi Peter,

The address of the chap in Holland who has done quite extensive research on the RAAF/RAF is as follows:

(from the most recent letter sent to my mother dated 10/3/99)

Ad van Zantvoort
van den Waarsenburglaan 6
5674 PV Gerwen (NR NUENEN)
Holland.
Tel: 00 31 40 2838345

Also, I haven't a scanner yet but that's on my shopping list. Will have the photos copied and forward them to you for inclusion on your website. Do you have a P.O. Box No.?

Regards,

Sue Macdonald

 


 

Subject:   460 SQUADRON
Date:           Tue, 18 Apr 2000 02:44:46 +0100 (GMT+01:00)
From:          atnewman@another.co.uk

HI MY NAME IS ANDY NEWMAN

MY LATE GRAND-FATHER FLEW FROM BINBROOK WITH 460 SQUADRON.

HE WAS KILLED ON 24 DECEMBER 1944 WHILST RETURNING TO BASE.

THE AIRCRAFT APPARENTLY BLEW UP IN FLIGHT, WHETHER IT WAS A DIRECT HIT FROM THE ENEMY OR AS A RESULT OF DAMAGE INFLICTED FROM THE GERMAN AIR FORCE I DO NOT KNOW, HOWEVER I UNDERSTAND THAT THEIR PLANE HAD ABORTED IT'S MISSION FOR SOME REASON.

HE IS BURIED IN A COLLECTIVE GRAVE IN OOSTELBEERS ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH IN HOLLAND. THIS IS 13 KILOMETRES NORTH WEST OF EINDHOVEN. THERE ARE 6 AUSTRALIAN MEMBERS OF THE CREW BURIED HERE TOO.

I WILL GIVE YOU MY GRAND-FATHER'S DETAILS FOR YOUR RECORDS AND MY E-MAIL IF YOU WISH TO CONTACT ME FURTHER.

THOMAS CHARLES NEWMAN
SERGEANT
923554
FLT. ENGR.
460 (R.A.A.F.) SQDN, ROYAL AIR FORCE VOLUNTEER RESERVE

MY E-MAIL ADDRESS IS, atnewman@another.co.uk

KIND REGARD'S FROM ENGLAND!

ANDY.

 


 

Subject:     460 squadron
Date:              Fri, 21 Apr 2000 04:32:38 +0100 (GMT+01:00)
From:            atnewman@another.co.uk

HI PETE,

GLAD YOU GOT MY E-MAIL.

I AM GOING TO HOLLAND SHORTLY TO COLLECT MY GRANDFATHER'S MEDAL'S AND LOG BOOK ETC. I WILL TRY AND GET A SCAN SENT TO YOU OF THE LOG BOOK AND SOME PIC'S I HAVE OF THE CREW.

THE LANCASTER THEY FLEW IN WAS S11.

I HOPE THIS HELPS WITH YOUR SITE.

ANDY!!!

 


 

Subject:    460 Squadron (Thomas Charles Newman)
Date:             Mon, 3 Jan 2000 04:58:02 -0800 (PST)
From:           Tony Newman <tonynewman99@yahoo.com>

Hello Peter & Happy New Year

My fathers late cousin Thomas Charles Newman was the flight engineer on the 460 Squadron flight piloted by M.C.Skarratt & navigated by R.I.Dickie, which was shot down over Holland on 24/12/1944. He was the only English crew member on the R.A.A.F. flight, all of which were killed that day and are buried together in Holland.

My dad, who himself was in the R.A.F. & for three months in 1944 was even stationed at Breighton, has researched extensively into our family history and produced quite a multi branched family tree, but he had been unable to find out much about Thomas Charles Newman other than that he had been killed in action on Christmas Eve 1944.

To assist his endeavors I recently searched the War Graves Commission website and found the burial site details in Holland for him, which also gave the squadron number. There was no stopping dad now - could I find out more about the squadron for him. At first I had no joy until he mentioned that it was a R.A.A.F. squadron and then there I was on the Peter Dunn Page.

I am hoping to get a copy of Strike & Return for dad, when they are back from the printers, and in the mean time I would be grateful for any information on the flight that either yourself or anyone else could supply. I am also E-mailing Sue MacDonald & Cathy Dunn with the same information, which I hope will be of interest. My Dad, age 74 is quite unwell at present but hopes to contact other members of the family when he is better, with a view to speaking to Thomas Charles's son and hopefully learning a lot more.

Anything we find out I will pass on to you.

Regards - Tony Newman,
Croydon, Surrey, United Kingdom.

 

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